Dialogue With A Giant - Last Part

This interview is divided into series for easy reading purpose. You can read parts I, II, III and IV as mentioned.
During freedom movement, the Muslims sadly didn't have access to different forms of media as Indian Congress had. Congress even had voices in British Parliament which spoke on their behalf; ruling Muslims totally out of mainstream. As a result, common English person didn't know which minorities existed in sub-continent and what was their stance. In this backdrop, they were unaware of Muslims' struggles and how they were subjugated. And so they were in favor of United India.

Also, it was (and also today) falsely believed that British wanted to create Pakistan. It is one of the greatest lies of history. Quaid-e-Azam made it a point in many of his speeches that "it was the common man who came first. You (educated people) came later" [for Pakistan Movement]. It is also discussed in detail in Mr. Khurram Ali Shafique's new book, Aazadi (urdu) that how Muslim League and the common people of sub-continent made Pakistan true. And even now how Muslim League is spiritually guiding South Asia. It is a different kind of history book, one which should be taught in every school.

Below is the passage where Nichols also talks about this issue. It is the fifth part of the interview series. I hope you enjoy it.

Beverly Nichols: The ironical thing is that your critics say that Pakistan itself is a British creation that it is an example of our genius for applying the principle of 'divide and rule'.

JINNAH: (with some heat) The man who makes such a suggestion must have a very poor opinion of British intelligence, apart from his opinion of my own integrity. The one thing which keeps the British in India is the false idea of a United India, as preached by Gandhi. A United India, I repeat, is a British creation a myth, and a very dangerous myth, which will cause endless strife. As
long as that strife exists, the British have an excuse for remaining. For once in a way, 'divide and rule' does not apply.

SELF(BN): What you want is 'divide and quit'?

JINNAH: You have put it very neatly.

SELF(BN): You realize that all this will come as something of a shock to the British electorate?

JINNAH: Truth is often shocking. But why this truth in particular?

SELF(BN): 

Because the average, . decent, liberal-minded voter, who wishes Britain to fulfil her pledges, and grant independence to India, has heard nothing but the Congress point of view. The Muslims have hardly a single spokesman in the West.  

JINNAH: (bitterly) 

I am well aware of that. The Hindus have organized a powerful Press and Congress Mahasabha are backed up by Hindu capitalists and industrialists with finance which we have not got.

SELF(BN): As a result they believe that Congress is 'India', and since
Congress never tires of repeating that India is one and indivisible, they imagine that any attempt to divide it is illiberal, reactionary, and generally sinister. They seriously do believe this. I know that it is muddle-headed, but then a democracy such as ours, which has to make up its mind on an incredible number of complicated issues usually is muddle-headed. What they have to learn is that the only liberal course, the only generous course, the only course compatible with a sincere intention to quit India and hand over the reins of government...

JINNAH: And the only safe course, you might add, is . . ,

 

Here the interview ends. Is it just me or do you also feel the pride of Quaid-e-Azam in this cause? How unapologetic he is towards his people's stance. Unlike our mainstream leaders or media which are always ready to do away with Pakistan at a slight hint. His sheer belief in freedom of sub-continent and the people makes this Movement more romantic. 

It provides a clear sight in Quaid-e-Azam's personality and this movement. It also shows that through dialogue, anybody would come to the only logical conclusion of the necessity of Pakistan. It is just the matter of seeing it with unbiased vision.

What did you think about this interview and what hindsight would you provide? I would love to hear from you, dear reader. It is time we make ourselves strong and do away with whatever shackles we are bound with. We need to feel confident about our legacy and ancestors in order to move towards more liberal age.